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> Because it's a pain in the ass. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app.

It seems that I enjoy the pain with many other people on r/selfhosted. I will call that pleasure I feel, The Pleasure of Pain.

I think that was what the web was about since the beginning and lasted for a good couple of years before targeted ads and "data became the new oil".

Edit: I replied before the GP edited the comment.



> on r/selfhosted

If you're not participating in https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted from your selfhosted Lemmy/Kbin/Mastodon/etc... instance, I question your commitment.


I second this!


I do not fault the r/selfhosted masochists, no kink shaming here, but recognize outliers vs the mean. Go talk to average folks for 15-60 minutes on the street about what social (video, communities, threads/twitter/x/whatever, etc) means to them, this will help calibrate perspective. This is just product and user research. Find out what people want and build it, don't build what you think they want. Product market fit is not just for startups.


Generally I'm for self hosting everything that I can, I just can't help myself pointing out that currently the most popular thread on r/selfhosted is "I'd rather kill myself than host SMTP again (self.selfhosted)" :D




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