I disagree. I use a 1Password, and I used to do the "totally random string of letters, symbols and digits", but I've dropped it for the "four or five random english words" alternative for all new passwords.
There are a couple of situations where having these symbol strings is really inconvenient. For instance, reading a password out loud to another person, or when logging in on a device where you can't (or don't want to) install your password manager on (e.g. a PS4 or an Apple TV). In those cases, "puncture-foible-irish-ducat-rejoice" is a lot easier to handle than "jh&6dQ#F]9.Z>u^t]6u+".
The "symbol" password has more entropy for sure, but the actual security benefit is essentially non-existent. No one's going to guess either password, and I'm never using the same password in two different places anyway. The extra convenience is totally worth it.
EDIT: as other people have pointed out in the thread, another example would be badly behaving sites that prevent "paste" or use other techniques to block password managers. Much easier to type in those words then.
There are a couple of situations where having these symbol strings is really inconvenient. For instance, reading a password out loud to another person, or when logging in on a device where you can't (or don't want to) install your password manager on (e.g. a PS4 or an Apple TV). In those cases, "puncture-foible-irish-ducat-rejoice" is a lot easier to handle than "jh&6dQ#F]9.Z>u^t]6u+".
The "symbol" password has more entropy for sure, but the actual security benefit is essentially non-existent. No one's going to guess either password, and I'm never using the same password in two different places anyway. The extra convenience is totally worth it.
EDIT: as other people have pointed out in the thread, another example would be badly behaving sites that prevent "paste" or use other techniques to block password managers. Much easier to type in those words then.